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Thread: First cycle for Rugby

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    First cycle for Rugby

    I am going to begin an offseason cycle to help train for rugby over the summer.
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    205 lbs
    11% BF
    4 years lifting experience

    Lifting stats:
    350 bench
    480 DL
    475 squat
    4.76 40 yard dash

    My projected cycle is as follows:
    1-12 Equipoise 400 mg/week
    6-12 Winny 50 mg/day
    PCT - clomid at 50m/day for 3 weeks, 3 weeks after my last pin.

    I might add in
    1-13 test Sustanon 250 mg/week
    with Arimidex at .5mg EOD

    From all the research I have done, I have seen a couple posts of people loving EQ and either winny or var cycles from their past, and a majority of people saying no test, no cycle. They think its a waste of money becuase you dont see many gains from the compounds size wise. My overall goal is not size or looking beefy, I am trying to gain an edge in my athletic performance. Im not going to stay away from gear, and the reason i chose EQ was because of the increase in RBC in the body and the effects it has on endurance athletes. Winny was chosen for the same reason. Im unsure if ill add in the test or not because I am not looking to gain a huge amount of muscle mass. Any input that you guys have for me from dosages, new cycle, recomended gear, or anything else let me know. I have a while to go before i make an purchases.

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    I would def throw test in with that cycle bro. Some may disagree but I personally believe that some type of Test should be included in any cycle.

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    test added for well being and optimal sexual funtion... Plus more drug synergy.

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    can or will you get tested...I would probably seek a fast acting esther and oral...I would say test prop at 75 mg ed or 150 eod with about 60 mg of var ed...wont hurt your endurance, nor gain hugh mass at your regimen... if you can afford it, GH is probably up your alley....

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    I will not be getting tested, not worried about that at all. And after searching more I have changed it prop instead of sust, looking at 500 mg a week of test prop. And I looked into var, just a tad bit too expensive for me at the moment. So i think i have decided to add in test, so i will also be throwing in arimidex probably at .5 mg EOD or somewhere around there.

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    Well imo your still abort young. The only thing ill agree with you on this is your an athlete. I'm sure you've done your research and understand the effects have on the body being younger. Replacing your already high natural test with even higher synthetic hormones isn't good. But you seem like your gonna do it anyway. So def run test only. See how your body reacts to the test only. More compounds on a first cycle gives you complications if you get sides. You won't know where they're coming from. If your diet is kn point as well as training there is no reason you cant achieve great success from a test only cycle. Whoever said test is a waste is a complete retard btw. Eq thickens the hella out of blood and winny is garbage unless your competing. It makes your joints hurt which you don't want and cholesterol goes to hella. Stick with a test only for your first and you will be satisfied. Wait till your next cycle to run more compounds. Test should be ran with every and all cycles.
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    Hey thanks for the input, and yeah im pretty set on doing a cycle. I was looking to run the eq to help with the endurance aspect of my training, and i was debating the winny because that is really just an additive that in my mind i could be fine without. I read that they strain the joints pretty bad which is probably goign to make me avoid them. Would switching the winny with anavar be a better choice? or just leave the var and winny out completely.

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    ^^^ yes, switch the winny for some var. Some report better joints from anavar use. For athletic use, I'm not sure though what the dose would be. BB'ers typically use 60-80mg/day.

    I would guess 40-60mg for you.

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    Quick question how does this cycle look?

    1-12 Test E 500 mg/week
    1-12 EQ 400 mg/week
    1-8 Winstrol 50 mg/day
    3-12 HCG 400 or 500 IU/E4D

    Should I add in Arimidex at .25mg EOD? Or would the HCG count for the AI? Im not quite sure about that.

    PCT
    14-16 Noval 40/30/20
    14-16 Clomid 100/50/50

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    Only thing I see is that the EQ will be cut short @12 weeks,Most if not all of us run it to 16 weeks or more......Since this is your 1st. cycle big cycle save the EQ for a latter cycle.

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    Hey everyone been doing more research, and takin advice. Came up with a new cycle that i feel i would benefit the most from.


    1-16 Test E @ 500 mg/week
    1-16 EQ @ 600 mg/week
    1-6 Tbol @ 50 mg/ED
    2-16 Arimidex @ .25 mg EOD (will pick the dose up to .5mg EOD if needed)

    PCT
    19-23 Clomind - 100/50/50/50

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    Looks good to me

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