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little about me: ill be 24 this month lifting weights consistently for 3 years and off and on 2 years prior. ive been a low weight of 158 lbs and up to high of 184 my avg is around 178 @ 14% BF
so in those 2 years i gained a good 20lbs.
ok ive been on this board a while been reading quite a bit and ive done a few oral cycles while ive had some success ive also had some not so great cycles. I wanna steer away from PH's with liver toxicity etc the sides they have it seems i might as well just start doing something that will get better results and maybe ill be happy with the money spent rather then second guessing if my body will react to certain ph's of if its just plain bunk etc. so for my first cycle heres what im thinking:
Weeks 1-4 dbol 40 mg per day
Weeks 1-10 500mg Test Cyp per week
Weeks 1-10 arim .5 mg per day
pct im not sure where to go with this. with my oral cycles ive ran nolva with success i have no problem continuing that, i also dont have a problem trying nolva/clom combo.
any additional supplements i should consider?
my thoughts on this. simple 10 week cycle see how the body reacts, my diet will be my normal bulking diet 3700 calories 300+grams of protein
the earliest ill start this cycle is in about a month and a half to 2 months just to detox my body of any orals etc.
Start the arimidex lower at 0.25 eod, thats most likely all youll need. For pct begin 14 daya after final test e pin and run nolva at 40/40/20/20 and clomid 50/50/50/50. Total 4 week pct. Id start the dbol at 25 if youve never ran it before to find out tolerance, and if all is well go as high as 50 for the 4 weeks. All else looks good and a nice layout... stay away from oral only cycles.. keep nutrition dialed in all the way through and train hard and you should see great results..
^^^^^ summed it up pretty well. Only think I would add is that at your age, weight and years training you probably have a couple more years where you could make great natural gains, so long as you haven't messed up your endocrine system with the PH's. Nasty stuff!
Good luck to you. Come back with any questions that come up. And do not start up until you have every single compound you will need including PCT on hand.
Thanks guys, I pan on getting blood work done before this as well, hoping all levels are good as the phs didn't do much for me anyhow.
Few things I need addressed. Libido issues on this cycle, I've never had any while on orals took dhea regardless wondering if that would be enough for this or do I need something more rx grade.
And my last few questions if someone with some experience could pm me who's willing.
Other then that I think I've done my research now just need to start ordering
What kind of support supps do you plan on using? You mentioned the concern about PHs and liver toxicity, Dbol is liver toxic as well in case you didnt know. Good luck.
Libido issues: You won't have any. Unless you count random boners and wanting to bang everything that moves as a libido issue.
As for the PMing you for answers, why don't you just post them here? I would hope that you don't plan on breaking our rules about asking for sources![]()
Yes as said you shouldnt have any libido issues. Glad to hear you are getting blood work first.. estrogen could cause libido issues as it does with me, but you are running arimidex so you should be gtg bro.
I have my sources I wanted to ask about brand quality and source reliability. Its a well known source amongst this board.
As far as support supps I already have liver guard, and cycle assist. Amongst a plethra of vitamins. Anything else I should add to that?
I run steakabol a couple times a week depending on funds. Chickenstrol is cheaper