"BROSCIENCE" definition

[HisAngriness]

Broscience:

A sarcastic term implying that the time tested, muscle building wealth of knowledge developed and utilized by successful, experienced bodybuilders is inferior to the continually shifting hypotheses of articulate, textbook-savvy 155lb. chemists with little or no real world first-person experience to substantiate their conclusions. The term "Broscience" is oft repeated on bodybuilding and fitness oriented internet forums in an attempt to demonstrate online dominance as a substitution for success in the arena of actual bodybuilding.

ex:
Professor Shnootgarten: What are you drinking there?

Tommy: Just a protein shake with some carbs; I need to get my 350 grams daily.

Professor Shnootgarten: According to the 30 pubmed studies that I’ve downloaded, any amount greater than 22.341 grams of protein post workout is superfluous for greater protein synthesis. Additionally, insulin spiking, if that’s your intended objective, is neither necessary nor helpful toward replenishing glycogen stores unless, of course, your focus is high rep, time under tension endurance tolerance rather than maximal load, low rep hypertrophy stimulation.



Tommy: Dude, over the last 8 years, I’ve gone from a 148 pound weakling to a 220 pound beast doing the same stuff that worked for my dad, and you’re a buck fifteen and have never actually seen the inside of a gym.

Professor Shnootgarten: Well, according to last year’s in-vitro study of skeletal-muscle glycogen phosphorylase done at the University of Stuttgart School of Bio-Organic Chemistry Deluxe...

Tommy: Spare me the science lesson Mr. Wizard; you’ll change your mind next week when new studies reveal the opposite conclusions. You can take your research and your weak pale self, and I’ll take the 500+lb.deadlift that I got with hard work and a little help from broscience.


THANK YOU

[rockinred]

lol...that's some good stuff. There is a lot of good broscience out there for sure. Also it's worthy to say there are some crazy silly stuff too. Through the years, I think we have heard it all... change this, change that. This study shows this, etc...

[Littleguy]

LMAO

Well HA according to a recent study, too many TATS will make your gums HUGE and your PEE PEE fall off, are ya sure you wanna risk it?

[HisAngriness]

LMAO

Well HA according to a recent study, too many TATS will make your gums HUGE and your PEE PEE fall off, are ya sure you wanna risk it?

mother ****er! i was wondering where my dick went...

[PillarofBalance]

Keep in mind while reading this that I'm the God Damn Brofessor here...

If you eat carbs at night you will get fat.

Egg yokes are bad for you.

You have to eat 5-6 times a day or you'll loose a f**k-ton of muscle.

You cant mix protein sources (like milk and whey powder) because you wont absorb much of it

Certain excersises will give certain muscles a particular shape. IE: such and such will Peak your Bi's, or this will give you horse shoe tris. Bah!

Use high reps for cutting

High reps give you big muscles

Low reps give you strong muscles

"If it fits your macros"

Fat is bad

Tribbulus Terrestis and about 8 million other useless supps

^^^ Just some examples of the bullshit that goes around the gyms and forums.

There are tried and true practices in bodybuilding, and some of the things we do are done just because its practical. The expression "you have to eat big to get big" is not what is getting attacked by the anti-broscience crowd. Its the made up bullshit that sounds like it has some basis in actual science.

I think what I'm saying is, although you've provided a definition, the example contained in there is a terrible one. Eating protein to gain muscle isn't broscience. And the know-it-all is quite simply ignorant of the level of stress we put ourselves under with our training. Everyone at work, and even my own mother constantly tells me I workout too much and that my diet is unhealthy. None of them have any idea what its like to strap two or three times your bodyweight on your back and squat repeatedly...

[NutNut]

Mr. Shnootgarten sounds more like the 1 spouting broscience there....

[1bigun11]

Funny stuff HA. LOL!

[HDH]

Keep in mind while reading this that I'm the God Damn Brofessor here...

If you eat carbs at night you will get fat.

Egg yokes are bad for you.

You have to eat 5-6 times a day or you'll loose a f**k-ton of muscle.

You cant mix protein sources (like milk and whey powder) because you wont absorb much of it

Certain excersises will give certain muscles a particular shape. IE: such and such will Peak your Bi's, or this will give you horse shoe tris. Bah!

Use high reps for cutting

High reps give you big muscles

Low reps give you strong muscles

"If it fits your macros"

Fat is bad

Tribbulus Terrestis and about 8 million other useless supps

^^^ Just some examples of the bullshit that goes around the gyms and forums.

There are tried and true practices in bodybuilding, and some of the things we do are done just because its practical. The expression "you have to eat big to get big" is not what is getting attacked by the anti-broscience crowd. Its the made up bullshit that sounds like it has some basis in actual science.

I think what I'm saying is, although you've provided a definition, the example contained in there is a terrible one. Eating protein to gain muscle isn't broscience. And the know-it-all is quite simply ignorant of the level of stress we put ourselves under with our training. Everyone at work, and even my own mother constantly tells me I workout too much and that my diet is unhealthy. None of them have any idea what its like to strap two or three times your bodyweight on your back and squat repeatedly...

I think it was a funny ass example. Unless I'm reading what you wrote wrong, the example wasn't about needing protein to gain muscle, it's about how much we take in compared to what science says is "superfluous" as stated in the post.

HA... funny shit.

HDH

[HisAngriness]

ok first off POB, you may be the Bro-fessor but i am the ****ing end all of broscience. you need any broscience advice, i'm the man to come to.
in some cases there is a fine line between the two and some examples of broscience are actually tried and true while some are way the **** out there. the same can be said about some scientific studies i've read too.
i liked when the kid said to the professor "you'll change your mind next week when new studies reveal the opposite conclusions"

a lot of this lifestyle is a matter of personal preference and finding what works best for our specific goals and genetics, and we all know everybody is different and reacts differently to separate workouts, diets, etc...

actually just trying to lighten the broscience mood around here with this post tbh.
the majority of us here have been around long enough and have been doing this long enough to know what works best for ourselves. when it comes to giving advice to noobs, we all have different little tips that worked best for us that we try to share and whether it be broscience or lab science, it still comes down to trial and error and experience in the end

[PillarofBalance]

ok first off POB, you may be the Bro-fessor but i am the ****ing end all of broscience. you need any broscience advice, i'm the man to come to.
in some cases there is a fine line between the two and some examples of broscience are actually tried and true while some are way the **** out there. the same can be said about some scientific studies i've read too.
i liked when the kid said to the professor "you'll change your mind next week when new studies reveal the opposite conclusions"

a lot of this lifestyle is a matter of personal preference and finding what works best for our specific goals and genetics, and we all know everybody is different and reacts differently to separate workouts, diets, etc...

actually just trying to lighten the broscience mood around here with this post tbh.
the majority of us here have been around long enough and have been doing this long enough to know what works best for ourselves. when it comes to giving advice to noobs, we all have different little tips that worked best for us that we try to share and whether it be broscience or lab science, it still comes down to trial and error and experience in the end

Very well said! What you've stated is why I always make an effort not to judge another's methods. We all have different preferences and in this game that can be because of mechanical leverages or metabolism rates... Whatever the case may be.

And you know I always give you your bro-props in this shit

[HisAngriness]

^^^hahaha thanks POBromo

[biguglynewf]

Entertaining post ha. And definitely some truths there as well. I like it.

[marx]

Thing about us- we live it. Science does a study on one variable, we share our experience from years of compound use, diet fine tuning, working with a crapload of variables- experiential knowledge, anecdotal knowledge.

What is really great is when a brother that knows the bio-chemical aspect can tell you why one compound tends to this result, another to this body feel sorta thing...

[IronInsanity]

Funny stuff HA. Bro-science at it's heart is just making something out to be more important than it really is, IMO. We worry about minute details that have .00009% effect on our results, but preach them like religion.

[ajdos]

Well on THIS board bro-science is an overused term people use to snipe and nickel and dime other peoples post and input, a term that someone who is too small minded to listen to another persons experience and methodologies because there's no paper published to back it up.
Yet if some needle dick who never lifted a weight in his ****ing life or pushed a few cc's writes something suddenly its muther****ing gospel...yeah right.
Brotellgence, brofessor, broscience, all terms noobs pick up when they come to boards along with other board slang and quickly use to offend other people and dismiss others without so much as being able to disprove the very people who they are judging.
I love some 3 year board vet whos never competed or even taken his physique to a somewhat high level of advanced development dismissing the posts of people who have done this sport 10-15-20+ years.
Its just some passive aggressive terminology those who's small minds feel threatened by differences of opinion and dissenting values.
The odd thing is most the chumps who throw this shit around have not been around long enough to even discern bro-science from tried and true bodybuilding methodology...notice I didnt say science...but bodybuilding methodology which if anyone knows is more like pseudo-science or whitchdoctory some times but you know whats funny, is the real innovators know that thinking out of the box and not worrying about being wrong actually allows them to learn something that the other self-conscious worry warts who dont want to look bad on some forum dont have...RESULTS.
I see a lot of ****ing bickering about whos ****ing 'kung fu' is more right, really? who gives a ****, while you dickshits argue some bro-fessor is in the gym experimenting and getting somewhere with his physique.
I had this discussion with mugzy himself that 50% of what we know on boards and in bodybuilding will be different in 5 years, with the exception of some foundation principles. Does that make it broscience? How many principles, supplements and protocols have I seen work, then called broscience, recycled and re-used again as truths, **** I have lost count.
So while you geniuses sit around debating shit and worrying about looking like you dont know everything other people arent sweating that shit and making some real gains.