Primo Question

[overwatch]

It's underground
Primo ethantate

This is your problem.


I only know of one UG source that has primo that's been proven legit and he's a GMP licensed compounding pharmacy. Most UG primo is EQ, test, or whatever they think they can pass off.

[sassy69]

FWIW I've never heard of that response to primo. It doesn't aromatize so there's no reason you should be getting "moon face" like you hear about from deca. What Shine said may be possible, but again I've never heard of that response before and only facial. It kinda sounds like an allergic reaction to whatever it is you have. And since its UG, God knows what it really is. If you're still experiencing the swelling, have you tried taking some Benedryl to see if it makes a difference?

[jenner]

This is your problem.


I only know of one UG source that has primo that's been proven legit and he's a GMP licensed compounding pharmacy. Most UG primo is EQ, test, or whatever they think they can pass off.

Not to say that maybe she didn't get something else, but this is not necessarily true.

[SHINE]

FWIW I've never heard of that response to primo. It doesn't aromatize so there's no reason you should be getting "moon face" like you hear about from deca. What Shine said may be possible, but again I've never heard of that response before and only facial. It kinda sounds like an allergic reaction to whatever it is you have. And since its UG, God knows what it really is. If you're still experiencing the swelling, have you tried taking some Benedryl to see if it makes a difference?

First I have heard of that, Could be an alergic reaction to Benzyl Benzoate or the carrier (oils used ) as well.

[SHINE]

Primo E usualy has more Benzyl Benzoate in it , Most UG's use 15% or more in there mixes.

I found this article, showing Benzyl benzoate causing symptoms like yours.
Also accutane can agitate and add to this as well.
Sounds like a combination of the two imo.

Anaphylaxis Triggered by Benzyl Benzoate in a Preparation of Depot Testosterone Undecanoate

We report the first case of an anaphylactic reaction to Reandron 1000 (depot testosterone undecanoate with a castor oil and benzyl benzoate vehicle). While considered to have a favourable safety profile, serious complications such as oil embolism and anaphylaxis can occur. In our patient, skin testing identified benzyl benzoate to be the trigger, with no reaction to castor oil or testosterone undecanoate components.

Anaphylaxis Triggered by Benzyl Benzoate in a Preparation of Depot Testosterone Undecanoate

[SHINE]

www.racgp.org.au/cmi/swcascab.pdf

showing allergic reactions of BB and Facial swelling.

[BikiniPinki]

So would you suggest me trying from another source?

[jenner]

Shine, you are AWESOME!

[BikiniPinki]

This is probably a stupid question...but would it help to run some labs at this point? Or would it make a difference

[sassy69]

First I have heard of that, Could be an alergic reaction to Benzyl Benzoate or the carrier (oils used ) as well.

THis is actually what I was thinking of. Its hard enough to find primo, and I don't know anything about home pharma & mixing powders. But w/ home brew (usually equivalently UGL) the biggest issue tends to be the concentration of the BA or, in this case the BB?

[sassy69]

So would you suggest me trying from another source?

At a min you should contact your source & tell him what's happening , and suggest it might be the particular concentration of the stuff the Primo is mixed in. And see if he'll send you a new bottle, probably w/ a lighter concentration.

Alternatively, get a different source.

This is probably a stupid question...but would it help to run some labs at this point? Or would it make a difference

If the doc just says allergies, or if a day's dose of Benedryl helps address it, its probably just an allertif reaction and no real need to get blood work.

Also consider not runnign accutane at the same time. But if the BB is lighter, then maybe the accutane wont' have any allergic reaction to aggravate in the first place.

Good call Shine!

[sityslicker1]

www.racgp.org.au/cmi/swcascab.pdf

showing allergic reactions of BB and Facial swelling.

Good call Shine. You may also want to find out if your primo has ethyl oleate in it. Its used as a carrier to cut down on the pain, but seems to give lots of users a bad reaction.

[sassy69]

Good call Shine. You may also want to find out if your primo has ethyl oleate in it. Its used as a carrier to cut down on the pain, but seems to give lots of users a bad reaction.

Also good call. I've heard that from a lot of guys and they need to request a different carrier in order to use their stuff.

[pips]

Good call Shine. You may also want to find out if your primo has ethyl oleate in it. Its used as a carrier to cut down on the pain, but seems to give lots of users a bad reaction.

that is a good point eo is hell.the fact is eo causes reactions alot here is what i tell people about it,if u swell up when u get stung by bees then eo not for u.im sure shine or nut has more info on this but as i understand it is made of a bee pheromone or some connection to bees.

as a side note if bb is causeing it then pack it in because human grade primo is 40%bb and castor oil.

[BikiniPinki]

Update on the facial swelling.
I determined it was not the Primo causing the swelling. It was either an allergic to eggs or the accutane. So thank goodness it wasn't the primo