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For whoever that incorporates both styles, are your lift #s balanced and/ or what do you see is the weight difference in SUMO vs. Conventional DEADLIFTS?
if anyone wants to bring up any lift..allways train your weak spots ....dw
i think we have a thread on this somewhere. but if i recall most people had a preference to how they pulled for various different reasons. numbers were always stronger towards which ever stance they prefered. so the sumo people pulled more doing sumo and the conventional pulled more doing conventional.
personally, i prefer conventional but i do sumo every once in awhile just for a change. most who do sumo seem to do it because it is easier on the knees.
I definitely agree with both of you. I am trying to train my weak spots such as my inner thighs, but I have grown to like the SUMO style and have surpassed my conventional max.
SUMO does not seem to be popular at all so I was wondering if there was a main reason for that or if just simply preference.
i think it is just personal preference, i find it awkward to do them that way. although i am liking squating better sumo. that also will help your inner thighs.
I pull sumo because I have SHIT knees and my squat stance is wide as well, allowing my inner thigh to be pretty powerful- only makes sense to use it for deads.. Im also 6'3, so any way I can get lower to the ground to compete I will take that advantage as well... I pulled 705 about a year ago sumo...
its def a preference...But if u look at all your top PLs most of them use conventional...dwOriginally Posted by HammerHead
I have found the opposite to be true amongst the higher level competitors that I know of in my area... they all use sumo. I prefer conventional, always have... hips never felt comfortable in sumo.
Did they always train that style or switch over at some point?
My inner thighs became a weak point and I HATE lunges so I am doing Sumo to make up for it. I find it to actually be more comfortable, maybe its from all my years of hockey, or the fact that I am short so it puts me really close to the ground.
Last edited by HammerHead; 07-18-2011 at 12:51 AM. Reason: Grammar
It's all about what you like best.....
I used to pull conventional. I did okay and hit 625 in a meet.... most of my team pulls sumo, so I gave sumo 2 years to see if I could make it work for me..... I hit 606 in a meet like that..... after not even hitting 6 in a meet the next year I made the call to go back to conventional and now am pulling over 700.......
Give both an honest try and see what you like best. I'm built better for conventional, and even with some of the best coaches in the country and some world class sumo guys helping me I never could make sumo work for me.....
Top end sumo 660, top end conventional 730+..... but I still work sumo once in a while to strengthen the hips.....
What about a bicep tear on conventional?
no diff from tearing your knee out on the squat...anytime your dealing with 100s of lbs the chances of u getting hurt will increase..Thats one of the biggest down falls to PLing....dw
Any time you use an underhand grip you run the risk of tearing a bicep.... one of our big 800+ sumo pullers just ripped up one of his, another 600+ puller did the same a few years back... both sumo, both the under hand. Unless you go to a hook grip you run that risk, has nothing to do with the stance.
Bob said it is the grip width more than the grip itself, the wider the grip width the higher the risk of tearing a bicep.
i think i remember watching a vid where louie simmons said somthing about how if you train with a wide stance, your narrow stance lift will increase, however, if you train narrow, it will do nothing for your wide stance lift...
i do primarily train and compete sumo, and have found this to be true for myself at least, though i know everyone is different to some extent...
my best pull sumo is 535@150ish... havent pulled conventional in a long time, but i did get a 475 off a 2-3inch box a while back, and i almost never use a narrow stance for anything but oly front squats...
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