what was your favorite dose? as far as gains vs sides?
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what was your favorite dose? as far as gains vs sides?
Depends what you're trying to do. If you're cutting then 100mg EOD is a perfect dose. For bulking I still wouldn't go more than 150mg EOD (525mg EW), that should be money. This also depends on your Test dosage and how good of gains you're makin on that. For me, the dose for both starts at 350mg EW for cutting. But,while running 525mg of Tren, I would run around 700mg of Test. The higher the Tren dose, the sides get more severe. The test helps make some of them more bearable.
i was the most happy with 150 mg eod day. shredded me and made me strong as hell.. altho i had to watch my temper.. it did get a lil out of hand some times...
I usually like 300mg a week....at that dose sides are low, but strength gains and fat loss are still good.
I like 100mg ED. I didnt get real bad sides until about week 8 or so, then my wife told me I had to get off of it cause it was messing me all up with anxiety and sweats and sleepless nights and it was affecting my breathing, I would get tired getting the mail from the porch! I did get great results and up until around the 8th week it was manageable.
DGAF
You didn't start with a 700mg EW dose did you!?? I think it would be more valuable for all the members to know what dose everyone did for their first cycle and what the think would be good if they had to do it over again. Then we can discuss what the optimal veteran dose is.
I started with 100mg EOD. within 10 days, i feel great, im stronger, and i can go much longer in the gym. up to this point i havent had many sides, the sweats are bearable, and i can sleep at night but i do wake up frequently.
i may bump it to 150mg EOD or 75mg ED-but im gonna wait til ive been on for 4 weeks first, so i can really learn the differences in dosages for me.
i started this thread just to get some convo going on the subject.
no tren cough yet-my buddy is running like 100mg ED and he gets it every time he says
I did start with 700mg EW of tren ace shooting 100mg ED, it wasnt my first cycle(very far from it) but it was the first time I used tren. I had read about the sides and the recommended doses and time on and everything so I knew what to expect from that. I got tren cough 2 times, out of all the shots I think I came out pretty good with that! I will say that I heard about the tren cough and read about it but nothing can prepare you for when it happens to you, it sucks!
DGAF
Wow, that's a ballsy first tren cycle dose. I applaud you for making it through that. I've never had the Tren cough before. Is it something that happens right away after you pin? I've heard theories that it's due to the BA concentration needed to make Tren soluble at more than 75mg/ml. Said BA is then expelled through the lungs which causes the cough....just a theory I've heard though. I don't think it's scientifically backed.
The tren cough has nothing to do with the BA content, the BA content is the exact same as used in just about every preparation, 2%. It does happens soon after you pin it and if your not quick it can come on while you are still pinning, as it almost happened to me the second time. I was almost done pinning and I felt it coming on and I quickly hurried and pushed the rest in real fast cause you dont want to get the tren cough with a pin in you!! I learned after that to load the tren first in the pin and then load whatever you are shooting with it, I was shooting 1cc of tren ace and 1cc of test prop, so the tren goes in your body last and not first cause if you shoot it in first and the cough comes on you would still have the other compound to push in, so always shoot the tren in last, thats my words of wisdom!
I believe it is the tren compound combined with nicking a vein or going through a vein when pinning that gives the cough. I have always shot 2% BA/ 20% BB compounds and tren is the only thing that ever gave me the cough, but I can say I got tren cough like symptoms from prop before, so maybe it is lower dose gear that does it but I wouldnt understand why as the BA/BB concentrations are the same in almost everything be it a 250mg dose or 100mg dose.
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