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    Androgenic to Anabolic Ratios

    Compound:---------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic
    1-Testosterone------------------------------------100------200
    Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--------50------100
    Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)---------------------------45------320
    Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)---------37-----125
    Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)------------------107-144-----267-332
    Anavar(Oxandrolone)--------------------------------24------322-630
    Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)-------------------30-260-----60-220
    Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)-----------------100------100
    Androderm(Testosterone)---------------------------100------100
    Androgel(Testosterone)-----------------------------100------100
    Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)-------------------------50------100
    Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)-------------------------1,800------4,100
    Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------------------37------125
    Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)---------------37------125
    Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------------------100------100
    Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)--------------------40-60------90-210
    Dimethyltrienolone------------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
    Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)--------------------------37------125
    Durabolin(NPP)--------------------------------------37------125
    Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)----------------------37------125
    Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)------------------50------100
    Esiclene(Formebolone)----------------------------No Data Available
    Genabol(Norbolethone)------------------------------17------350
    Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)-----------------------850------1,900
    Hydroxytestosterone--------------------------------25------65
    Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)----------------------37------125
    Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone)------------------187------1,200
    Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)---------------25-40------62-130
    Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)---------------25------46
    MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)--------------650------2,300
    Mestanolone-----------------------------------78-254------107
    Methandriol(Mythelandrostenediol)----------------30-60------20-60
    Methyl-1-Testosterone------------------------100-220------910-1,600
    Methyldienolone-------------------------------200-300------1,000
    Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)---------------------281------1304
    Methyltestosterone-----------------------------94-130------115-150
    Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
    Miotolan(Furazabol)------------------------------73-94------270-330
    Myagen(Bolasterone)-------------------------------300------575
    Nilevar(Norethandrolone)-------------------------22-55------100-200
    Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)---------------------100------100
    Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------------20-400------200-400
    Oral Turinabol------------------------------------None------100+
    Oranabol(Oxymesterone)----------------------------50------330
    Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------------325-580------110-125
    Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)----------500------500
    Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)-----------------44-57------88
    Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)--------44-57------88
    Prostanozol----------------------------------------n/a------n/a
    Protabol(Thiomesterone)----------------------------61------456
    Proviron(Mesterolone)---------------------------30-40------100-150
    Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)------37------125
    Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)---------20-60------50-90
    Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)---------------------400------20
    Sustanon 100 & 250-------------------------------100------100
    Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-------100------100
    Test 400------------------------------------------100------100
    Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100
    THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-----------------------No Data Available
    Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends-------------------500------500
    Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------------30------320

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    You are on a role, another great post, this should hopefully clear up and help a lot with the difference between Anabolic and androgenic. Thanks.

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    knowing this will also help build a better cycle.

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    thanks for the list dude comes in real handy went i want to turn into a MONSTER>> LOLOLOLO

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    Re: Androgenic to Anabolic Ratios

    Why hasn't anyone tried MENT?

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    Re: Androgenic to Anabolic Ratios

    am i wrong, or are these ratios derived from each chem's effects on rat testicles?

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    wow great info


    Quote Originally Posted by AWARE72 View Post
    Compound:---------------------------------Androgenic------Anabolic
    1-Testosterone------------------------------------100------200
    Anabolicum Vister(Quinbolone)(oral Boldenone)--------50------100
    Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)---------------------------45------320
    Anadur(Nandrolone Hexyloxyphenylpropionate)---------37-----125
    Anatrofin(Stenbolone Acetate)------------------107-144-----267-332
    Anavar(Oxandrolone)--------------------------------24------322-630
    Andractim(Dihydrotestosteron)-------------------30-260-----60-220
    Andriol(Testosterone Undecanoate)-----------------100------100
    Androderm(Testosterone)---------------------------100------100
    Androgel(Testosterone)-----------------------------100------100
    Boldabol(Boldenone Acetate)-------------------------50------100
    Cheque Drops(Mibolerone)-------------------------1,800------4,100
    Danocrine(Danazol)----------------------------------37------125
    Deca-Durabolin(Nandrolone Decanoate)---------------37------125
    Deposterona(Testosterone Blend)-------------------100------100
    Dianabol(Methandrostenolone)--------------------40-60------90-210
    Dimethyltrienolone------------------------------10,000+-----10,000+
    Dinandrol(Nandrolone Blend)--------------------------37------125
    Durabolin(NPP)--------------------------------------37------125
    Dynabol(Nandrolone Cypionate)----------------------37------125
    Equipoise(Boldenone Undecylenate)------------------50------100
    Esiclene(Formebolone)----------------------------No Data Available
    Genabol(Norbolethone)------------------------------17------350
    Halotestin(Fluoxymesterone)-----------------------850------1,900
    Hydroxytestosterone--------------------------------25------65
    Laurabolin(Nandrolone Laurate)----------------------37------125
    Madol(Desoxymethyltestosterone)------------------187------1,200
    Masteron(Drostanolone Propionate)---------------25-40------62-130
    Megagrisevit-Mono(Clostebol Acetate)---------------25------46
    MENT(Methylnortestosterone Acetate)--------------650------2,300
    Mestanolone-----------------------------------78-254------107
    Methandriol(Mythelandrostenediol)----------------30-60------20-60
    Methyl-1-Testosterone------------------------100-220------910-1,600
    Methyldienolone-------------------------------200-300------1,000
    Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN)---------------------281------1304
    Methyltestosterone-----------------------------94-130------115-150
    Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000
    Miotolan(Furazabol)------------------------------73-94------270-330
    Myagen(Bolasterone)-------------------------------300------575
    Nilevar(Norethandrolone)-------------------------22-55------100-200
    Omnadren(Testosterone Blend)---------------------100------100
    Orabolin(Ethylestrenol)--------------------------20-400------200-400
    Oral Turinabol------------------------------------None------100+
    Oranabol(Oxymesterone)----------------------------50------330
    Orgasteron(Normethandrolone)-----------------325-580------110-125
    Parabolan(Tren Hexahydrobenzycarbonate)----------500------500
    Primobolan(Methenolone Acetate)-----------------44-57------88
    Primobolan Depot(Methenolone Enanthate)--------44-57------88
    Prostanozol----------------------------------------n/a------n/a
    Protabol(Thiomesterone)----------------------------61------456
    Proviron(Mesterolone)---------------------------30-40------100-150
    Sanabolicum(Nandrolone Cyclohexylpropionate)------37------125
    Steranabol Ritardo(Oxabolone Cypionate)---------20-60------50-90
    Superdrol(Methyldrostanolone)---------------------400------20
    Sustanon 100 & 250-------------------------------100------100
    Synovex(Testosterone Propionate & Estradiol)-------100------100
    Test 400------------------------------------------100------100
    Test Enanthate/Cypionate/Propionate/Susp & Blends-100------100
    THG(Tetrahydrogestrinone)-----------------------No Data Available
    Tren Acetate/Enanthate & Blends-------------------500------500
    Winstrol(Stanozolol)---------------------------------30------320

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    var is that anabolic wow

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    Giving this a try:
    Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000

    Started Friday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeton View Post
    am i wrong, or are these ratios derived from each chem's effects on rat testicles?
    I didn't feel like digin the whole damn article up but Chemistry wizard Patrick Arnold explains the whole idea below.

    Patrick Arnold
    Research and Development of anabolic steroids

    For you to fully appreciate the things I am going to discuss in this article you have to have a background on how anabolic steroids are screened for activity. As you know, anabolic steroids are derivatives of testosterone which share two types of activity – muscle building (deemed anabolic) and non muscle male sex hormone related activity (deemed androgenic).

    The goal of researchers in the golden age of anabolic steroid research (1935-1965) was to synthesize a compound which retained a high degree of anabolic activity coupled with a vastly diminished androgenic activity. This property was quantified using what is known as the Anabolic / Androgenic ratio (A/A ratio). The goal was not so much to produce a compound that was strongly anabolic, but rather the goal was to produce a compound with the highest possible A/A ratio. You must understand that the market for anabolic steroids was not bodybuilders / athletes but geriatric patients, patients recovering from surgery or injury, or those suffering from weakness or catabolism secondary to some other disease. These can include men and women, and even children. It was therefore paramount to avoid any virilizing effects when providing such people anabolic treatment, and so an anabolic agent with a very low A/A ratio was needed.

    To determine the A/A ratio, scientists utilized a test called the Rat Levator Ani Assay. In this test, scientists use two groups of castrated rats. The rats are castrated to remove any interfering influence from fluctuating natural androgen levels. The first group of rats are a control group that receives a placebo, while the second group receives the steroid (either by injection or orally). After a period of time (several days to weeks) the rats are sacrificed. Researchers then isolate three organs from each of the rats – the seminal vesicles, ventral prostate, and levator ani muscle. These organs are all weighed and a comparison of the active group to the placebo groups is made. The differences in weights for the seminal vesicles and ventral prostate represent androgenic activity, while the difference in the weight of the levator ani muscles in the control and active group represent anabolic activity.

    To give a landmark against which to gauge the relative activities of each steroid in this assay, a standard is used in some of the rats in the active group. This standard is usually testosterone, testosterone propionate, or 17alpha-methyltestosterone (MT) and the results obtained from the rats given this standard are designated an arbitrary number of 1 for anabolic activity and 1 for androgenic activity. Therefore these standard androgens are said to have an A/A ratio of 1.
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    People say dbol made my hair fall out due to it being a strong androgen, yet tren and halo have a much higher androgenic ratio and that didnt make me shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    People say dbol made my hair fall out due to it being a strong androgen, yet tren and halo have a much higher androgenic ratio and that didnt make me shed.
    Was readin the other day that high estrogen is bad for hair loss to, damn If I can't find the article at the moment. (find it i'll post that bish up)

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    This ratings chart kept me from trying Halo and Cheque Drops after running high doses of Tren a few years back. This is a lot easier than pulling out a book, flipping through 150 pages to find each one.

    I believe it is a good base to start from. For people with experience in multiple compounds the difference in ratings seem in line with results, sides and PCT planning. I used to compare everything to the Test ratios before I tried them.

    Good post.

    HDH

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    Quote Originally Posted by parttimer View Post
    Giving this a try:
    Metribolone(Methyltrienolone)---------------6,000-7,000------12,000-30,000

    Started Friday!
    Was that the GP oral tren? How did it work for you. I went up to 8 of those little triangles and nothing. I now have a reliable source for methyldienolone instead as well as M1T, Madol, MHN, and Havoc.

    Methyl 1 Testosterone,oral 100-220 910-1,600
    Methylhydroxynandrolone(MHN),oral 281 1304
    Madol, Phera Plex, DMT(Desoxymethyltestosterone),oral 187 1,200
    Havoc, Epistane, Epithio 91 1,200
    Methyldienolone,oral 200-300 1,000
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    lol, the fact that methydienolone and oral tren were even just compared is ridiculous! I understand you got a bad batch of GP stuff Vick, but to insinuate that you would use M Dien "instead" of oral tren as if it was a replacement is ludicrous. I was one of the lucky ones who got a "real" batch of GP oral tren early on and experienced incredible results. Later on down the road I recieved some of those triangle tabs from a buddy who said they were not working for him. So, I tried some of them and I too realized that he had recieved a batch that appeared to contain very little or zero active product.

    I wish someone would come out with a good quality oral tren tab again because you cannot beat it for size and strength. Hell, you only need 3 weeks on it to make incredible gains. I would venture a guess that beacuse most of the pow sources have a minimum order of 1kg for the stuff, no one is going to be breaking the bank anytime soon for that venture.

    Also, I woudl be highly skeptical of anyone claiming to have real MHN. That is a really good drug, but is very rare. It is illegal just like M1t and cannot be sold in prohormone form.

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