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    thoughts on new routine

    I would be grateful if sb looked at what im planning to do for at least next 2 months:

    Monday - Back and Biceps

    Deadlifts: 3 × 6
    Pullups: 3 sets to failure
    T-Bar Rows: 3 × 10 (2 second pause in the contracted position)
    Lat Pulldowns: 3 × 10
    Cable Rows: 3 × 12
    DB Shrugs: 3 × 12 (with a 3 second squeeze at top)

    Barbell Curls: 3 × 8
    Incline Curls: 3 × 8
    Reverse Curls: 3 × 10-12

    Tuesday - Chest and Triceps

    Incline Dumbbell Press: 3 × 6-8
    Flat Dumbbell Press: 3 × 6-8
    Incline Dumbbell Fly 3 × 8
    Weighted Dips: 3 × 8

    EZ Curl Skull Crushers: 3 × 10
    Tricep Pushdowns: 3 × 10
    One-Arm Extensions: 3 × 10or 12

    Thursday - Legs and Abs



    Squats: 3 × 8
    Leg Press: 3 × 8-12 (3 seconds going down during the eccentric phase)
    Leg Extension: 3 × 8-12 (hold each contraction for 3 seconds)
    Leg Curls: 3 × 8-12
    Stiff leg Deads: 3 × 10

    Weighted Hanging Leg Raises: 3 × 8-12
    Cable Crunches: 3 × 8-12

    Saturday - Shoulders and Calves

    Seated DB Press: 3 × 10
    Side Lateral Raises: 3 × 10
    Bent Over Flyes: 3 × 10
    Plate Raises: 3 sets with 45 lb plate

    Seated Calf Raise 3 × 15
    Standing Calf Raise 3 × 10


    Waiting for you opinions mates.

    Cheers


    Note: only work sets are listed.

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    I guess that you're trying to put on some mass on your frame but since i haven't seen you i will give you some general guidelines.

    The routine looks pretty complete to me but I would use higher reps and a good "rhythm" in the cable exercises and save more strength for the free weight exercises. I would preferably alternate between cables and free weights.

    I would also keep my repetitions above 10 for my legs, (10-20) preferably.

    Finally you should add more exercises or sets in my opinion unless you're sure that you don't need more than that.

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    1. What are you looking at gaining from these next two months?
    2. Why only two months?
    3. Can you post some body shots. Front, back and sides?
    4. What body part is your weakest/Smallest?
    5. Weight?
    6. Height?
    7. Workout Days, 3, 4, 5 or 6 Days on....Are there any days in particular would like off?



    I see a few things I would change up for sure?
    But to answer you better. I need a little more info from you.

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    3 sets of squats???? ya had a solid program till i hit that bro...bad idea.

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    ps..i would like to know about your 3 set scheme all the way around, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramrod View Post
    1. What are you looking at gaining from these next two months?
    2. Why only two months?
    3. Can you post some body shots. Front, back and sides?
    4. What body part is your weakest/Smallest?
    5. Weight?
    6. Height?
    7. Workout Days, 3, 4, 5 or 6 Days on....Are there any days in particular would like off?
    1. Mass
    2. Not only, but I would like to try and evaluate this particular routine and decide if keep it or change it
    4. Delts and arms are lagging
    5. 5 8
    6. 180lb
    7. 4 workouts a week is maximum I can. lot of commitments during a week. Id like also not to workout more than 2 days in a row.


    all 3 work sets are done till failure, often using forced reps and a bit of cheating (if safe)

    only 3 sets for squats, but these are maximum sets. I give them all Ive got. so should I add another workset?


    THANK you ALL very much for your time. I appreciate it.
    Last edited by luka5; 07-30-2012 at 05:59 AM.

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    If you have some time under your belt in the gym. The 4 day split for DC Training might be perfect for you. And once you are in that for a few weeks. Start adding a Drop set or Giant Set in place of the Static Hold. For Arms and Delts once a week.

    Read into DC Training. If that doesn't should interesting... I would make these changes to your above workout...

    If your Arms and Delts are weak points. Give them there own day. (if you don't DC Train)

    Chest,Back---Push, Pull Workout
    Arms
    Shoulders
    Legs


    Also 3 sets of Squats to almost Failure is OK.. If you have 3-4 sets of Warms before as well.
    But I would follow it with 4-5 sets of Heavy Leg Press too.


    But for a 4 day Split.. DC works very well for Mass. IMO

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    I know DC rules and guidelines and a lot of people recommend it but it is for more advanced guys than me I guess. Im 100% natural. I deadlift 335lb for reps and squat 285lb for reps and I consider myself as intermediate. And the problem is that I dont have always a training partner and it is a must when doing DC I guess.

    I'd try DC in future, surely. But for now I would be very grateful for making changes in my workout writeup above if it sint all bad. thanks!

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    I trained DC for a couple of years without any Partner. In fact that's the only way I do train. If your Gym has a Smythe Rack, DB's and some Decent Machines. DC is great for guys at your level. You learn a lot while doing it. I started DC about 10yrs ago and to this day I still use a very part of what I learn doing it. DC still sounds perfect for you.. IMO again


    To start off DC Training. Pick 4-5 Exercises for each muscle group. Pick ones that you feel give you the most Growth.



    DC Teaches the progression of weight, How to Log correctly and use it to your Advantage, Rest/Pause, Static Holds, Negatives, Stretching, etc..

    When you don't have a partner. A Few exercises will be out of the question. BB Flat Bench. Just replace it with Smythe Rack. DB's are perfect for DC. As you don't need a spotter either. You can always just let go of them.

    If you want some help setting it up. I'll be here.
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    Monday - Back and Biceps

    Deadlifts: 3 × 6
    Pullups: 3 sets to failure
    T-Bar Rows: 3 × 10 (2 second pause in the contracted position)
    Lat Pulldowns: 3 × 10
    Cable Rows: 3 × 12
    DB Shrugs: 3 × 12 (with a 3 second squeeze at top)
    Barbell Curls: 3 × 8
    Incline Curls: 3 × 8
    Reverse Curls: 3 × 10-12

    Do some Light lower back exercises like Hyper-extensions or Hip Thrust/Glute Raises. Before Deadlifts. Just enough to loosen/warm up. You don't want to wear your lower back out. Just warm it up.

    Tuesday - Chest and Triceps

    Incline Dumbbell Press: 3 × 6-8
    Flat Dumbbell Press: 3 × 6-8
    Incline Dumbbell Fly 3 × 8
    Weighted Dips: 3 × 8
    EZ Curl Skull Crushers: 3 × 10
    Tricep Pushdowns: 3 × 10
    One-Arm Extensions: 3 × 10or 12

    Do Biceps, Triceps and Forearms on same day.

    Thursday - Legs and Abs

    Squats: 3 × 8
    Leg Press: 3 × 8-12 (3 seconds going down during the eccentric phase)
    Leg Extension: 3 × 8-12 (hold each contraction for 3 seconds)
    Leg Curls: 3 × 8-12
    Stiff leg Deads: 3 × 10
    Weighted Hanging Leg Raises: 3 × 8-12
    Cable Crunches: 3 × 8-12

    Need at least 5 sets of Squats. 4 sets for everything else. Super set Leg curls and Leg Ext. I'm not a fan of Stiff leg Deads. There are better exercises for the Ham's. AB's should be done twice a week. Once with Weights. Then once with Body weight. I like to do something P90X's AB workout at home on my days off. Then Hit the with weights while at the gym.

    Saturday - Shoulders and Calves

    Seated DB Press: 3 × 10
    Side Lateral Raises: 3 × 10
    Bent Over Flyes: 3 × 10
    Plate Raises: 3 sets with 45 lb plate
    Seated Calf Raise 3 × 15
    Standing Calf Raise 3 × 10

    Again 4 sets and 12 reps. Alternate DB's Press with Smythe rack weekly. I like doing side and front raises on the Cables. You can't swing the weight and have better control on the way down. Plate Steering raises are awesome too. Hit Calves twice a week.

    Recap

    1. Instead of 3 sets... do 4 plus Proper Warm ups.
    2. Biceps, Triceps Forearms.... on the Same Day
    3. AB's and Calves twice a week
    4. For Shoulders and Arms. Pick either the first exercise or the Last and do a FST-7 type of set. Which means. Your doing 7 sets and failing on each set at or close to 12 reps. Each set. You will be adjusting the weight often. To make sure you fail around 12. You only get 15sec rest between sets. Try a few Drop sets here and there for weak parts too.

    When having only 4 days to squeeze everything in. You will learn to super set a lot. And even Rest/ Pause can help save time.

    No matter what you do. Make sure you do SQUATS for sure. Also include weighted Pull ups, weighted Dips, T-Bar, Deadlifts, Incline Bench, Close Grip Bench, Skull Crushers, etc.... Stick to exercises that focus on Mass first.

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    pretty freaking solid ramrod with all the limitations that he has going on

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    Thank you Ramrod for your help. Im very grateful for your time.

    But I must admit that you tempted me into DC.. I will read DC guide again and try it.
    Last edited by luka5; 07-31-2012 at 04:22 AM.

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    Anytime.... What you will learn from Training DC will carry over for your rest of your gym days. I still use a two week rotation, Rest/Pause and of course. I log my workouts and try to better myself each week.

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