So, for the second time the same person that won the open figure also won the open physique.....does that seem wrong ro anybody else? Wasnt the new class started specifically to be different? What are your thoughts on it...
Definitely. I was told men couldn't do bb and physique. So why the double standard?
Two different physic for two different divisions.nothing surprises me with this sport in the ifbb.the shows are fixed.correct me if I'm wrong the physic division was established because there were girls who were slightly more muscular than the figure girls but not as big as the womens bb so they created the physic division which i prefer.this is why there is so much double standards in this sport.know the question is where does that leave the physic girls once again?
We've been seeing the bias towards Figure since the beginning. Most of the shows I've seen, both regional and professional, those coming from FBB are completely dissed while the rewards are given to the girls who are often softer than the Figure girls. So far the only show I've been remotely in agreement with on placing has been the recent NY Pro show, where Juliana Malacarne, IMO set the bar for Physique. But you don't find that type of physique very often and the back-up options are not particularly impressive to me, given what I, and most people, think Physique should be.Originally Posted by shan
(This link will get you to the RXmuscle gallery for the NY Pro show - click on Comparisons for Physique)
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You can see she has decidedly fuller muscle bellies than most everyone in Physique. And the comparable ladies I've seen typically are coming from BB, but there seems to be a fine line of delineation in the overall "shape" of the body that favors Figure. And like I said, I often see the Figure competitors look tighter. That part I don't get - I see it particularly at the pro level where the Figure girls are bigger AND tighter.
Mostly it feels like there's just mega overcompensation to make it NOT bodybuilding. But in most case it looks more SUB Figure and not very interesting. Its evolving, as does everything on teh women's side. You can't enter a Physique category and EXPECT the "right" results. You very much still need to go in w/ your best package, but be aware of the current trend. The logic of it all still ain't there. But the goal of competing against yourself still is!
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Im actually happy with myself for setting the goal and going for it, just knowing I have to work harder to get better at this sportI did notice it was more like a beauty pageant than a muscular development comparison...I was told I should glam it up LOL. So...live and learn is the motto....and be sure next time I will be better prepared!
my states that i compete in doesnt allow you to crossover from figure to physique. that is garbage. i thought the level of conditioning or as it was supposed to be set up was bikini figure/fitness, physique and then the ultimate conditioning coming from bodybuilders. isnt that the way it was supposed to go? that to me sounds like you took a royal screwing by politics. and that is a sad part of our sport
She looks incredible in that photo.to me that perfection.
I think she is a great example of what I pictured a physique winner to be...she has good size and symmetry, and is very feminine and sexy...
i agree with sass...juliana looks amazing and imho does exactly personify what i understood the physique category to be...it makes no sense to me that a physique competitor should come in softer than a figure...
so much bias in this sport...so little lack of consistency...
fwiw, in ny there is no crossover either...not that i would ever be mistaken for them...lol..
You look great buddy!
I think the "problem class" is figure. It seems that the amateur figure girls are a bit softer. Generally the figure girls that are turning pro are much harder. Then as we reach the higher levels of competition such as the Arnold or Olympia, the girls seem to soften up a bit. Thus the problem is when figure girls go hard to turn pro. The look is very similar to physique.
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sexy girl
I think WPD is just another act from from the feds to abandone FBB. Sad but true.
But i hope i am wrong .... i beeeg
The bigger issue is that the "look" of each class is so fluid, that I fully expect WPD to start trending towards bigger & harder - not as big as FBB, but certainly Juliana Malacarne trends towards fuller muscle than the first couple pro competitions of last year. And since IMO the "soft" look is relatively easy to accomplish - basically prep for a BB show, and then start eating pizzas at 3 weeks out - so as it continues, it is going to get more competitive as ladies like Juliana start showing up. In that respect, a softer Figure look just might find a stronger place relative to WPD. The girls who fit better into WPD are the ones who were getting dinged in the Figure ranks for being too hard, when IMO they were just looking more like Figure circa 2005.
The problem in trying to guess what each category looks like is that it differs so much show to show, region to region, as well. I would like to see more and enforced consistency across categories and also from amateur to pro as well.
Yes, I would hope that having one person win figure AND physique would be done with, with two different sets of criteria they should never win both...hence my original gripe. I suppose in smaller shows it could still be an issue, just because there are less competitors, but in the large shows it should never happen.
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