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This is the labs when my test level was 2957 and I didn't want to get off the couch lol.
Why not?Originally Posted by Vick
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Well it was the first time I ran EQ with test and I think my RBC was too high, kind of like what happens on Anadrol.
The side effects of your test levels been too high can be fatigue, weakness and you all know the rest. However your age has a lot to do with it too. Studies show a male's test levels are at there highest naturally of course at the age of 40 then plummet down. I cant really see your attachment it is to small for me to read when it pops up but test is measured in ng/dL or atleast it use to be. Your level are super high. Is this mid-cycle? How far along are you into it with the EQ? The body produces I believe if memory serves me correct roughly 75-100 mg's per week. Using any synthetic aas yeilds of course great benefits but too much can be a disaster as well. I guess more info is needed to help figure out what is goinmg on with you and the cause of the "not wanting to get off the couch" feeling. Respectfully,Wake
Test levels peak at 40? I think you are off by a couple decades, but I've been wrong before.
Yes it is at its highest at around age 40 from a study revised in April of 2010
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Chernecky CC, Berger BJ (2008). Laboratory Tests and Diagnostic Procedures, 5th ed. St. Louis: Saunders.
Fischbach FT, Dunning MB III, eds. (2009). Manual of Laboratory and Diagnostic Tests, 8th ed. Philadelphia: Lippincott Williams and Wilkins.
Pagana KD, Pagana TJ (2010). Mosby’s Manual of Diagnostic and Laboratory Tests, 4th ed. St. Louis: Mosby Elsevier.
Primary Medical Reviewer E. Gregory Thompson, MD - Internal Medicine
Specialist Medical Reviewer Matthew I. Kim, MD - Endocrinology
These professionals can all be wrong as well SAD. Not saying who is correct or incorrect just relaying info from researching when it applies. I try not to state wrong information however sometimes I do because I have a horrible way of wording things but this is not one of those times. I suck working a computer but it was an article i read and downloaded it to my laptop so I can read it on the plane and read into the people that wrote the study and performed the tests etc etc. I c&P a ton of crap onto my computer. Pretty much everything I read lol.
Gotta respectfully disagree wake. I'm away from my computer, and likely won't get into a science posting debate even when I get back to it, but there isn't a study that could convince me to disbelieve what I've seen in myself and every guy I know.
A testosterone test checks the level of this male hormone (androgen) in the blood. Testosterone affects sexual features and development. In men, it is made in large amounts by the testicles. In both men and women, testosterone is made in small amounts by the adrenal glands; and, in women, by the ovaries.
The pituitary gland controls the level of testosterone in the body. When the testosterone level is low, the pituitary gland releases a hormone called luteinizing hormone (LH). This hormone tells the testicles to make more testosterone. See a picture of the pituitary gland camera.
Before puberty, the testosterone level in boys is normally low. Testosterone increases during puberty. This causes boys to develop a deeper voice, get bigger muscles, make sperm camera, and get facial and body hair. The level of testosterone is the highest around age 40, then gradually becomes less in older men.
In women, the ovaries account for half of the testosterone in the body. Women have a much smaller amount of testosterone in their bodies compared to men. But testosterone plays an important role throughout the body in both men and women. It affects the brain, bone and muscle mass, fat distribution, the vascular system, energy levels, genital tissues, and sexual functioning.
Most of the testosterone in the blood is bound to a protein called sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). Testosterone that is not bound ("free") can also be checked if a man or a woman is having sexual problems.
Why It Is Done
A testosterone test is done to:
See why a man is having problems in fathering a child (infertility). A low amount of testosterone can lead to low sperm counts.
Check a man's sexual problems. A low level of testosterone may lower a man's sex drive or not allow him to have an erection (erectile dysfunction).
See whether a high level of testosterone is causing a boy younger than age 10 to have early signs of puberty.
Check a decreased sex drive in a woman. This may be due to the level of testosterone in her body.
Find out why a woman is developing male features, such as excessive facial and body hair (hirsutism) and a deep voice.
Find out why a woman is having irregular menstrual periods.
See if testosterone-lowering medicines are working in a man with advanced prostate cancer.
Find the cause of osteoporosis in a man.
How To Prepare
You do not need to do anything before you have this test. Your doctor may want you to do a morning blood test, when testosterone levels are highest.
How It Is Done
The health professional taking a sample of blood will:
Wrap an elastic band around your upper arm to stop the flow of blood. This makes the veins below the band larger so it is easier to put a needle into the vein.
Clean the needle site with alcohol.
Put the needle into the vein. More than one needle stick may be needed.
Attach a tube to the needle to fill it with blood.
Remove the band from your arm when enough blood is collected.
Put a gauze pad or cotton ball over the needle site as the needle is removed.
Put pressure to the site and then a bandage.
How It Feels
The blood sample is taken from a vein in your arm. An elastic band is wrapped around your upper arm. It may feel tight. You may feel nothing at all from the needle, or you may feel a quick sting or pinch.
Risks
There is very little chance of a problem from having blood sample taken from a vein.
You may get a small bruise at the site. You can lower the chance of bruising by keeping pressure on the site for several minutes.
In rare cases, the vein may become swollen after the blood sample is taken. This problem is called phlebitis. A warm compress can be used several times a day to treat this.
Ongoing bleeding can be a problem for people with bleeding disorders. Aspirin, warfarin (Coumadin), and other blood-thinning medicines can make bleeding more likely. If you have bleeding or clotting problems, or if you take blood-thinning medicine, tell your doctor before your blood sample is taken.
Results
A testosterone test checks the level of this male hormone (androgen) in the blood.
Normal
The normal values listed here-called a reference range-are just a guide. These ranges vary from lab to lab, and your lab may have a different range for what’s normal. Your lab report should contain the range your lab uses. Also, your doctor will evaluate your results based on your health and other factors. This means that a value that falls outside the normal values listed here may still be normal for you or your lab.
Your doctor will have your test results in 1 to 2 days.
Total testosterone
Men
270-1070 ng/dL (9-38 nmol/L)
Women
15-70 ng/dL (0.52-2.4 nmol/L)
Children
2-20 ng/dL or 0.07-0.7 nmol/L
The testosterone level for a postmenopausal woman is about half the normal level for a healthy, nonpregnant woman. And a pregnant woman will have 3 to 4 times the amount of testosterone compared to a healthy, nonpregnant woman.
Free testosterone
Men
50-210 pg/mL (174-729 pmol/L)
Women
1.0-8.5 pg/mL (3.5-29.5 pmol/L)
High values
In men, a high level of testosterone may be caused by cancer of the testicles or adrenal glands.
In boys younger than 10, a high level of testosterone may mean early (precocious) puberty, a tumor in the testicles, or an abnormal adrenal gland.
In women, a high level of testosterone may be caused by cancer of the ovaries or adrenal glands or by polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS).
Low values
In men or boys who have gone through puberty, a low level of testosterone may be caused by a problem with the testicles, such as slow development of, an injury to, or a lack of testicles. It can also be caused from treatment with the female hormone estrogen, a problem with the pituitary gland, or many long-term (chronic) illnesses.
A low testosterone level in men can also be caused by certain inherited diseases (such as Klinefelter syndrome or Down syndrome), liver disease (cirrhosis), or treatment for cancer of the prostate gland.
Chronic alcohol use can cause a low testosterone level.
In women, a low level of testosterone may be caused by an underactive pituitary gland, Addison's disease, loss of ovary function through disease or surgery, and some medicines (such as corticosteroids or estrogen).
What Affects the Test
Reasons you may not be able to have the test or why the results may not be helpful include:
Taking medicines such as estrogen (including birth control pills), testosterone, corticosteroids, digoxin (Lanoxin), spironolactone (Aldactone), or barbiturates.
Having hyperthyroidism. This can raise sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) levels. Hypothyroidism can lower SHBG levels.
Taking medicines to treat prostate cancer.
Taking medicines that raise prolactin levels, such as certain seizure medicines.
What To Think About
Most of the testosterone in the blood is bound to a protein called sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). "Free" testosterone may be checked when conditions that can increase SHBG levels, such as obesity or hyperthyroidism, are present.
The levels of other hormones made by the pituitary gland, such as follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH), may be checked to see whether a low testosterone level is caused by problems with the testicles or ovaries or the pituitary gland. A really high level of LH and a low level of testosterone often means that the testicles or ovaries are not working properly. A low LH level and a really low or high testosterone level may mean a problem with the pituitary gland. For more information, see the topics Follicle-Stimulating Hormone and Luteinizing Hormone.
For women, medicines such as birth control pills or corticosteroids may lower levels of testosterone. Oral estrogens used for hormone replacement therapy can also lower testosterone levels.
Although this study is I believe accurate I do not believe it is accurate for bodybuilders or powerlifter as we use massive amounts of supplements to train. I think anything we put in our bodies that is not natural like AAS and any other supplements in the long term has certain negative effects on us. A great example who is never talked about much is Jack Lalanne.
Might I remind you he is the reason why bb'ing is what it is. He beat Arnold in an informal competition at the age of 54 years old.
Here is a C&P of Jack Lalanne's accomplishments from age 40 on as an example that he could have done double this in his prime and before the age of 40.
1954 (age 40): swam the entire length (8,981 ft/1.7 mi) of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, under water, with 140 pounds (64 kg; 10 st) of air tanks and other equipment strapped to his body; a world record.
1955 (age 41): swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf in San Francisco while handcuffed. When interviewed afterwards he was quoted as saying that the worst thing about the ordeal was being handcuffed, which significantly reduced his chance to do a jumping jack.
1956 (age 42): set what was claimed as a world record of 1,033 push-ups in 23 minutes on You Asked For It,[31] a television program hosted by Art Baker.
1957 (age 43): swam the Golden Gate channel while towing a 2,500-pound (1,100 kg; 180 st) cabin cruiser. The swift ocean currents turned this one-mile (1.6 km) swim into a swimming distance of 6.5 miles (10.5 km).
1958 (age 44): maneuvered a paddleboard nonstop from Farallon Islands to the San Francisco shore. The 30-mile (48 km) trip took 9.5 hours.
1959 (age 45): did 1,000 jumping jacks and 1,000 chin-ups in 1 hour, 22 minutes, to promote The Jack LaLanne Show going nationwide. LaLanne said this was the most difficult of his stunts, but only because the skin on his hands started ripping off during the chin-ups. He felt he couldn't stop because it would be seen as a public failure.
1974 (age 60): For the second time, he swam from Alcatraz Island to Fisherman's Wharf. Again, he was handcuffed, but this time he was also shackled and towed a 1,000-pound (450 kg; 71 st) boat. At least that's according to his website. However, according to an account of this event published the day after it occurred in the Los Angeles Times, written by Philip Hager, a Times staff writer, LaLanne was neither handcuffed nor shackled if each of those terms has the unconventional meaning of "tightly binding the wrists or ankles together with a pair of metal fasteners" although that's not how handcuffs or shackles work. Hager says that LaLanne "had his hands and feet bound with cords that allowed minimal freedom". But "minimal" clearly did not mean "no" freedom, since elsewhere in the article Hager describes LaLanne's method of propulsion through the water as "half-breast-stroke, half-dog paddle" which is how you swim with your hands tied.
1975 (age 61): Repeating his performance of 21 years earlier, he again swam the entire length of the Golden Gate Bridge, underwater and handcuffed, but this time he was shackled and towed a 1,000-pound (450 kg; 71 st) boat.
1976 (age 62): To commemorate the "Spirit of '76", United States Bicentennial, he swam one mile (1.6 km) in Long Beach Harbor. He was handcuffed and shackled, and he towed 13 boats (representing the 13 original colonies) containing 76 people.[32]
1979 (age 65): towed 65 boats in Lake Ashinoko, near Tokyo, Japan. He was handcuffed and shackled, and the boats were filled with 6,500 pounds (2,900 kg; 460 st) of Louisiana Pacific wood pulp.[33]
1980 (age 66): towed 10 boats in North Miami, Florida. The boats carried 77 people, and he towed them for over one mile (1.6 km) in less than one hour.
1984 (age 70): handcuffed, shackled, and fighting strong winds and currents, towed 70 rowboats, one with several guests, from the Queen’s Way Bridge in the Long Beach Harbor to the Queen Mary, 1 mile
I think it's pretty safe to say that an 18 yo has more testosterone than a 40 yo. I did one 7 week cycle before i was 40 at age 21 and my test levels were 300 at 40. So it wasn't like I abused my hpta. Most 40 yos I know aren't peaking in testing production like that report claims. It will take more than one report telling me 40yos make the most testosterone.
Great read awakened.i had mine just done.the range they measured it was from was 8.5 to 28.5 .mine was 20.havent run any gear for 15 years.i am 40 years old.two years ago I got it done and my test level was 26 .so for me it is beginning to decline but it's expected.funny thing was I wasn't even training when I got it done 2 years ago.
You mention something along the lines of "he could have done double this in his prime before he was 40". Seems to undermine your claim that test levels peak at 40. I could go on and on with examples of how physical, sexual, and mental performance decline well before the age of 40, but it seems that it would be futile. There will always be an article or "study" that shows the opposite of whatever you believe. I'm past the point of going back and forth with studies. Let's agree to disagree.
I remember my test level was 1499> that was the cap(was probably more), i was taking a good amount of test
LOL SAD if you read the article it is not my claim brother. I believe what it means by "PEAK" means just that. It means that is the age that it starts to decline. of course each person is different . Jack Lalanne trained with weights until the day he died. He only had a few more years to be an entire century old (100 years old) that is a long time to live. Look at his picture in wikipedia from 1947 bro. I dont word things exactly how I am thinking. I agree with you I was just stating what a study shows. I believe not a single person should even think about touching aas until atleast 25 and with the experience of knowing how to diet, train correctly,warm up, stretch etc because there test levels are just beginning to level out.
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